We’re joined by fellow Atlantans- our friends Julien & Kiersten Saunders! They started their site Rich & Regular back in 2017 after they threw themselves into the financial independence movement and paid off $200,000 in debt. They’ve been featured virtually everywhere- the Times, the Atlantic, Bloomberg. They’re successful speakers, created a fantastic Youtube series called Money on the Table, and now they’re about to be published authors! Their book “Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away” comes out next week. In the book they write about creating your own career path, making peace with your finances, and building wealth on your own terms. During this interview we discuss Julien & Kiersten’s introduction to the FIRE movement, avoiding imposter syndrome when creating content, and how to actually know if it’s time to cash out by quitting your job.
Additional links:
- Julien & Kiersten – Learn more about the Saunders over at their site: RichAndRegular.com , and their book is available for pre-order, set to publish June 14th.
- Credit Card Tool – Looking for the right credit card for you? Then check out our new credit card tool that’ll help you to easily filter through all the cards based on your preferred airline, whether or not they have an annual fee, or simply by the cash back offer! Just toggle the sliders and you’ll know which card to consider.

During this episode we enjoyed a Valley of Gold by Wild Heaven! And please help us to spread the word by letting friends and family know about How to Money! Hit the share button, subscribe if you’re not already a regular listener, and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Help us to change the conversation around personal finance and get more people doing smart things with their money!
Best friends out!
* Advertiser Disclosure: How to Money has partnered with CardRatings for our coverage of credit card products. How to Money and CardRatings may receive a commission from card issuers.
* User Generated Content Disclosure: Responses are not provided or commissioned by the bank advertiser. Responses have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by the bank advertiser. It is not the bank advertiser’s responsibility to ensure all posts and/or questions are answered.