*Special Episode Alert*… take a peek behind the curtain as we have an intimate, candid chat with our friend Jillian Johnsrud, a master of intentional career breaks and author of the upcoming book Retire Often (out in September). As we take a summer hiatus from new podcast episodes, we dive deep with Jillian into the art of stepping away from work. We explore overcoming the fear of pausing, navigating boredom, the stages of a meaningful break, how to discuss time off with others, and much more! We cut straight to it during this personal and inspirational convo!
Additional Links:
- Jillian’s Book – Check out Jillian’s book, “Retire Often!”‘
- Take your own mini sabbatical – Check out our post on How to Take A Year Off Work (and Come Back Stronger)
- Money Gears – Knowing your ‘money gear’ is a crucial part of your personal finance journey. Start here.
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Best friends out!



